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- IETF STEERING GROUP (IESG)
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- REPORT FROM THE TELECONFERENCE
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- August 24th, 1992
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- Reported by: Greg Vaudreuil, IESG Secretary
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- This report contains IESG meeting notes, positions and action items.
- For more information please contact the IESG Secretary.
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- iesg-secretary@nri.reston.va.us
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- ATTENDEES
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- Borman, David / Cray Research
- Crocker, Dave / TBO
- Crocker, Steve / TIS
- Coya, Steve / CNRI
- Davin, Chuck / Bellcore
- Gross, Philip / ANS
- Hobby, Russ /UC-Davis
- Huizer, Erik / SURFnet
- Reynolds, Joyce / ISI
- Stockman, Bernard / SUNET/NORDUnet
- Vaudreuil, Greg / CNRI
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- Regrets
- Almquist, Philip / Consultant
- Hinden, Robert / SUN
- Piscitello, Dave/ Bellcore
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- AGENDA
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- 1) Administrivia
- o Bash the Agenda
- o Next Meeting
- o IESG-Admin mailing list
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- 2) Protocol Actions
- o Ethernet MIB
- o Dynamic Host Configuration
- o Hub MIB
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- 3) Technical Management Issues
- o ROAD Work Plan
- o SMP Chairman
- o TAP and STD/RFC Confusion
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- 4) Working Group Actions
- o Integration of Internet Information Service (iiis)
- o IP Address Encapsulation (ipae)
- o Whois and Network Information Lookup Service (wnils)
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- MINUTES
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- 1) Administrivia
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- o Bash the Agenda
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- The IESG agenda was altered as the meeting progressed.
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- o Next Meeting.
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- The IESG agreed to meet weekly for the next month to continue work
- on the backlog of items. These meetings will each be from 12-2 pm
- ET. August 31th, September 10th or 11th, September 14th, September
- 21st, October 1st
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- o IESG-ADMIN mailing list
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- To foster more effecient scheduling of IESG meetings, a new mailing
- list was set up to include administrative support people responsible
- for IESG members calendars.
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- ACTION: Coya -- Set up the IESG-Admin@nri.reston.va.us mailing list and
- send a notice to the IESG soliciting entries.
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- 2) Protocol Actions
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- o Ethernet MIB
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- The Ethernet MIB was approved as revised during the last call
- period.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to publish the Ethernet MIB
- as a Draft Standard.
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- o Hub MIB
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- The IESG discussed the single comment raised during the last call
- period, agreed upon a response and approved the 802.3 Repeater MIB
- for Proposed Standard.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Send a recommendation to the IAB to publish the
- 802.3 Repeater MIB as a Proposed Standard.
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- o Dynamic Host Configuration
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- The review of the Dynamic Host Configuration was assigned to the
- Transport and Services area and will be reviewed by Dave Borman.
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- ACTION: Borman -- Review the set of Dynamic Host Configuration
- documents.
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- 3) Technical Management Issues
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- o ROAD Work Plan
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- The IESG discussed a work plan document combined from Philip
- Almquist's draft and the IESG proposal sent to the Big-Internet
- list. The IESG agreed that the document should be posted as an
- Internet Draft as soon as possible. Publication as an
- Informational RFC was discussed but deferred until the IETF had a
- chance to review and submit comments.
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- ACTION: Gross - Make final edits with Bob Hinden to the IESG ROAD Work
- Plan and submit the document to the Internet Drafts directory for
- review.
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- IPAE is the first Working Group proposed under the work plan and
- the IESG decided to actively solicit additional charters before
- announcing IPAE. Because of the shortage of resources in the
- Internet Area the tasks of soliciting the charters was distributed
- among the IESG.
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- ACTION: Dave Crocker -- Get a final version of the IPAE charter to the
- IESG.
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- ACTION: Piscitello -- Work to get a charter for the TUBA effort
- submitted to the IESG.
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- ACTION: Davin -- Work to get a charter for the PIP protocol effort
- submitted to the IESG.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- Work with Noel Chiappa to get a charter for a
- NIMROD working group.
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- Work on Integrating CIDR into the current routing protocols is
- progressing in individual Working Groups in the Routing Area. The
- IESG felt that additional coordination was needed for deployment in
- addition to the BGP efforts and tasked Stockman to assemble and
- charter a CIDR deployment working group.
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- ACTION: Stockman -- Form a Cidr Deployment Working Group.
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- o SMP Working Group Chairmanship
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- Finding a chairman for the SMP Working Group continues to be a
- challenge. The IESG discussed the wisdom of requesting the Area
- Director for Network Management Chuck Davin chair this group. The
- IESG agreed that this was not an optimal solution and requested
- that the search be expanded to individuals who are not central to
- the SNMP community.
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- o TAP and the RFC/STD confusion
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- Daniel Bernstein has submitted his TAP specification to the RFC
- Editor for publication as a Informational document. This document
- is roughly equivalent to a document submitted earlier as a Proposed
- Standard for which the IDENT Working Group was formed. The author
- is not satisfied with the work of this group and has asked to have
- his submission published as Informational. The IESG discussed this
- request with the RFC Editor and has suggested that in the current
- environment where RFCs are equated incorrectly with standards,
- publication of TAP would be seen as directly competing with the
- efforts of the IETF working group.
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- The cause of confusion is the procedure by which an Informational
- document specifying protocol is published. The STD series does not
- appear to have reduced the appearance of RFCs as standard to
- outside individuals. Currently the RFC Editor may at his discretion
- publish the document, an awkward procedure when the IESG suggests
- that the document should not be published.
-
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- ACTION: Dave Crocker -- Write a proposed policy on the publication of
- Informational documents specifying protocol as RFCs.
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- ACTION: Gross -- Make a request to the IAB Executive Director to hold a
- joint IESG/IAB teleconference to discuss this persistent procedural
- problem.
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- 4) Working Group Actions
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- o Integration of Internet Information Services (IIIS)
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- The proposed IIIS working group is one of several working groups
- being formed to address the needs of the Internet for Resource and
- Information location services. IIIS is intended to take the work of
- several prototype services like Archie, Prospero, Gopher and WWW,
- determine common requirements and define a common protocol.
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- The IESG discussed this working group in the context of two other
- recently proposed, but not initially coordinated WGs -- Universal
- Resource Locator/Universial Document Identifier (URL) and Network
- Information Retrieval (NIR). These groups each address a specific
- part of what should be considered as a coordinated project.
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- IIIS will standardize upon an information access protocol. URL will
- standardize on a common global document naming convention. NIR will
- determine what needs naming and how to name it.
-
- The IESG agreed that these working groups needed to be tightly
- coordinated and well managed to insure a workable solution.
- Therefore, rather than approve the charters of these groups
- individually, the IESG opted to encourage the IIIS and other WGs to
- write coordinated charters.
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- To achieve this coordination, the IESG asked Huizer, Hobby, and
- Reynolds to draft a brief architecural overview statement that could
- be referenced by, or incorporated into, the charters of each WG.
-
- The IESG decided to create these working group in the Applications
- area under Russ Hobby. They will be co-managed by Joyce Reynolds in
- the User Services area.
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- ACTION: Hobby, Reynolds, Huizer -- Draft a Brief (~1 page)
- overview/architecture for a coordinated "Integrated Internet
- Information Service".
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- ACTION: Hobby, Reynolds -- Coordinate the drafting of the charters for
- the proposed Integrated Internet Information Services, Universal
- Document Identifier and Network Information Retreival Working Groups to
- align with the above overview/architecture..
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- The Coalition for Network Information (CNI) has express an interest
- in supporting and participating in the work of these working
- groups.
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- ACTION: Reynolds, Gross -- With the architecture and charters for the
- internet information working groups, meet with CNI and discuss
- arrangements for effective liaison and participation.
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- o Whois and Network Information Lookup Service (wnils)
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- The IESG reviewed the wnils charter. The WHOIS protocol is widely
- implemented and the IESG is reluctant to sanction a major
- extension. The IESG is supportive of an effort to foster
- operational coordination and consistent information responses.
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- ACTION: Hobby -- Contact the chair of the proposed WNILS Working Group
- and seek clarifications in the charter on the scope of the effort.
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- o IP Encapsulation (ipae)
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- The IESG reviewed the IPAE charter. With minor changes, the IESG
- approved the work plan, but will delay announcement of this working
- group until the IESG ROAD work plan is published as an Internet
- Draft.
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- ACTION: Vaudreuil -- After the IESG ROAD work plan, announce the IPAE
- Working Group to the IETF.
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